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clerum
Just curious what your opinions are with requards to server speed, and network size reqirements.
Currently I'm running on a Windows Server 2000 1Ghz P3 with 1GB of RAM. SQL 2000 runs on this box as well. It's only a 100 node license, but I'm polling all devices every 10 sec, and interface stats every minute. Basically it's our core network nodes, and I want to catch everything. DB size hovers just below 600MB. It does the polling fine, but the webpages are kind of slow to load.
I the next 2 months we will be upgrading to the 250 then SLX versions of the software, and migrating off of HP Openview where we currently monitor customer connections (about 1000 of them, and growing fast). These will be polled about every 3 minutes, and interface stats every 5 minutes.
The box I'm currently eyeing is a dell 2850 specs follow:
Dual 3Ghz Xeon
4GB of RAM
Server 2003
SQL 2000
280GB of Storage
It's going to be a staged rollout with this box doing everything, then offloading the DB to another server at some point, and a remote poller as well for an distant operation.
What do you think, will it handle it?
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iunderwo
Polling every 10 seconds is going to clobber that machine if you load it up fully.
Consider the Orion docs specify a 3GHz server for under 10k elements, with a remote SQL database and a polling/stats interval of 9 minutes. Your current license will only allow a maximum of 300 elements, so this isn't too bad right now. Add
For the amount of stuff you want to implement, you're better off building the SQL server now instead of trying to move it and eat up another license later. 600mb isn't much of a DB, but moving a ton of customer connections will balloon that number quickly into the multi-gig range. Granted, this depends on how often you do status rollups.
Bear in mind, that the more granular stats you have, the longer this is going to take to process during the nightly update. I would like to see DB maintenance made a separate application which can be installed on the SQL server itself. The local access will save a lot of time in the process, and won't bog down the poller box.
Remote pollers are generally a bad idea unless you plan to implement a high-availability, distributed SQL server. The ratio of polling traffic to DB traffic is about 1:10 in my experience, and can easily chew up a megabit or two of bandwidth. Also, losing access to the DB doesn't help the poller's stability, especially since the poller isn't designed with this in mind.
// Ian Underwood - Service Management
// Level 3 Communications
mjhamilton
box should be fine..however with this amount of elements you will need a full blown instance of SQL to hold the data.. the basic version supplied with the software wont be able to go above 2G in size....
Martin J. Hamilton... lost in a sea of snmp...
pancamo
We are using a 4-way 2.8Ghz ibm box monitoring 1400 nodes, 4300 Interfaces and 2000 Volumes...
The one performance problem I have noticed that the our internal disks don't appear to be fast enough... %idle on the disk drops t0 0% and the CPU go idle during the compact job and sometimes during the day...
We have an hour gap in data during the 2am SW compacting job. Also when the System Manager is open, we see gaps in the data...
We are moving the database disk to a SAN disk which hopefully will help. If it does not help, we'll try moving the database to another server.
We found that our web pages were slow because we created a treeview of servers. The best way to find the slowness on a page is to detach the resources one at a time to fine the slow one..
We have some of our custom views posted on yahoo...
groups.yahoo.com/.../
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jonchill
If you want to get best your performace your probably better off putting SQL onto a seperate box so that the polling engine and Orion site work at peak efficiency.
Currently the spec we are using is
Polling Engine and Orion
Dual Xeon 1.6
2Gig Ram
Windows 2000
SQL
Dual Xeon 1.6
2 Gig Ram
Windows 2000
We currently have 3500 nodes that are polled every 60 seconds and stats aree taken every 10 mins and it works like a treat.
Hope this helps
Jon
IT Infrastructure Manager
Pilgrim Hospital
UK
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