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      • 76. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
        mesverrum

        I can tell I spend too much time in the database because looking at that grid all I can think is that i would made that thing programmatically as a pair of sql queries/dashboard so I don't have to update it by hand.

        • 77. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
          dodo123

          Here is one of ours could do with the visio integration as getting everything lined up and the right distance really difficult.

           

          Then when you try and repeat it.

           

          More paint features so you could draw a box round something so you could call it UK,

          • 78. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
            ecklerwr1

            Wow I haven't had the map that wouldn't open again problem... that's bad.

            • 79. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
              ecklerwr1

              sotherls has been around here on thwack since even the old website.

              • 80. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                jspeer

                Email sent with a screenshot of one of our maps!

                • 81. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                  sierra1011

                  Emailed.

                   

                  A couple of things I find frustrating are the the GUI, and not being able to have dynamic relationships between status icons. My example of what I mean would be where I have an active-passive cluster, and I want the active node name/IP/etc displayed at all times, and to change when the active node changes.

                  • 82. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                    joelgarnick

                    I usually just build a diagram in Visio and then import it as the background in Atlas and attach nodes/interfaces/groups/whatever as needed.  It would be really cool if there was just some type of visio plugin that let you build natively there (probably not really the feedback you were going for, but there you have it).

                     

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                    • 83. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                      Radioteacher

                      Hey kbongi, Show us that thing that is going to replace Atlas!

                       

                      RT

                      • 85. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                        martian monster

                        When I updated SolarWinds last October it broke logins to Network Atlas and now we have to use the local Solarwinds "admin" account. Any idea when this will get fixed?

                        • 86. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                          dodo123

                          I know there is a current problem with network atlas access but I thought it was Sam 6.6 didn’t realise it had been out that long? What did you upgrade to?

                          • 87. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                            mesverrum

                            In case anybody wants to see an example of how you would turn a grid of info like this into a SWQL report this is basically how you would get it done.  I'll caution you this is absolutely not "ready for prod" code since I don't have most of these types of systems in my lab, but just an example of the logic one could write.

                             

                            select distinct ncp.Site_Name, temp.Temp
                            , '' as FW1
                            , '/Orion/images/StatusIcons/Small-' + fw1.statusicon as [_iconfor_FW1]
                            , '' as FW2
                            , '/Orion/images/StatusIcons/Small-' + fw2.statusicon as [_iconfor_FW2]
                            , fwa.Caption as [HA]
                            , fwa.CPULoad as [CPU]
                            , '/Orion/images/StatusIcons/Small-' + s.StatusName + '.gif' AS [_IconFor_HBSS]
                            , '' as HBSS
                            --smtp1.defs, smtp1.dq, smtp1.dfr
                            --smtp2.defs, smtp2.dq, smtp2.dfr
                            --proxy1.status
                            --proxy2.status
                            --av1.status
                            --av2.status
                            
                            from orion.NodesCustomProperties ncp
                            
                            --join the undp sensor from the environment monitor for each site, if there are more than one temp sensors then you need to adjust the where condition to isolate the ones we want to use for each location
                            left join (SELECT max(cpa.CurrentValue) as Temp, ncp.Site_Name
                            FROM Orion.NPM.CustomPollerAssignmentOnNode cpa
                            join orion.NodesCustomProperties ncp on ncp.NodeID=cpa.NodeID
                            where cpa.assignmentname like '%temp%'
                            group by ncp.Site_Name) temp on temp.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            
                            --up down for firewall1, this light could display the status any kind of monitor relating to fw1 but for the sake of simplicity I went with status
                            left join (select n.StatusIcon, n.CustomProperties.Site_Name
                            from orion.nodes n
                            where n.caption like '%fw1%') fw1 on fw1.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            
                            --up down for firewall2
                            left join (select n.StatusIcon, n.CustomProperties.Site_Name
                            from orion.nodes n
                            where n.caption like '%fw2%') fw2 on fw2.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            
                            -- pulls the caption of whatever firewall node is currently active, you'd need to adjust the cpa.assignmentname like part to whatever you call your asa undp, or look up where this data is kept in the new ASA pieces but I don't have an ASA handy in the lab to confirm
                            left join (SELECT ncp.node.Caption, ncp.node.cpuload, ncp.Site_Name
                            FROM Orion.NPM.CustomPollerAssignmentOnNode cpa
                            join orion.NodesCustomProperties ncp on ncp.NodeID=cpa.NodeID
                            where cpa.assignmentname like '%ASAHAStatus%' and cpa.CurrentValue = 'Active') fwa on fwa.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            
                            -- made some assumptions about this, but assuming by hbss you mean you are monitoring symantec EPO definitions I would set up a sam template that goes critical if the templates have not been recently updated, by using a max I am basically doing a lazy version of "worst status" of any EPO client at the site, if this was for prod I would probably build in some case logic here to be a bit more accurate
                            left join (SELECT a.node.CustomProperties.Site_Name, max(A.status) as Status
                            from orion.apm.Application a
                            where a.Name = 'SYMANTEC ENDPOINT PROTECTION CLIENT'
                            group by a.node.CustomProperties.Site_Name) hbss on hbss.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            
                            --this is how I'm converting from the status integer to the name of the icon I want to use, as in status 14 will turned into 'critical'
                            left join orion.StatusInfo s on s.StatusId=hbss.status
                            
                            --left join ( smtp1 defs.status, deliveryquue.statistic as dq, deliveryfailurereports.statistic as dfr) smtp1 on smtp1.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            --left join ( smtp2 defs.status, deliveryquue.statistic as dq, deliveryfailurereports.statistic as dfr) smtp2 on smtp2.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            --left join ( proxy1 status) proxy1 on proxy1.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            --left join ( proxy2 status) proxy2 on proxy2.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            --left join ( av1 status) av1 on av1.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            --left join ( av2 status) av2 on av2.site_name = ncp.Site_Name
                            
                            where site_name is not null

                             

                            Assuming you get things arranged correctly you would end up with something roughly like this, and you just keep figuring out what to join until you get all the things you want, but this example covers the main types of objects just change the names of the things you are looking for basically.

                             

                             

                            With the whole point of the exercise being that as new sites come up, or new sensors/firewalls/proxies whatever come online you can just set their properties and they automatically get added to the table instead of having to load up atlas and redraw them in and try to fuss with getting everything lined up nicely and all that.  The biggest pain point with really elaborate atlas diagrams is when they are no longer accurate and you have to start fixing all the unknown objects and such in them.

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                            • 88. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                              nickzourdos

                              I love this thread. Here's something fun I came up with to show all of our locations in a small amount of space:

                               

                               

                              Each cube is assigned the status of a group for all nodes at that site

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                              • 89. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                                kbongi

                                I love this! It also makes me want to play Q*Bert

                                Related image

                                • 90. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                                  Malik Haider

                                  Just curious in such type of map.

                                  How do you know if a cube is down / warning - if its critical or non critical ?

                                  Something you can immediately identify if the group of nodes.

                                  • 91. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                                    nickzourdos

                                    I've created a group for each of our remote sites which contains all of the nodes for that site. I then assigned each cube one of those groups based on the site name. If the cube is yellow, there is one or more problems at that site. If the cube is red, the entire site is unreachable.

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                                    • 93. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                                      sotherls

                                      nickzourdos - LOVE IT!!! Very clean and a great idea!!

                                      • 94. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                                        nickzourdos

                                        Holy cow! That must have taken some time

                                        • 95. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                                          viguy

                                          Jeeze, did you use Spirograph to make that one.....

                                           

                                          • 96. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps!
                                            rschroeder

                                            I sure hope some new-and-much-improved version of Atlas is coming soon.  I agree with earlier comments about it being clunky, about it providing too much or too little information, about it would be great if it tied into Visio and could automatically use Visio Stencils.

                                             

                                            And wouldn't it make perfect sense to Atlas to have ties into Network Topology Manager?  (Which also needs some serious makeover work!)

                                            • 97. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                                              grantallenby

                                              Agreed!

                                               

                                              Solarwinds are sadly behind the curve when it comes to network mapping as a whole in my opinion. I do really like the new maps feature and its a great start but I don't always want to localise it to only a few switches/routers. I want the whole picture.

                                               

                                              I'm finding I use a combination of Maps, Netpath, Netflow to build pictures but why can't I just have it in one view. Integrating them all into a nested or zoomable view of my entire network would be amazing. Live links, Port info, Netflow data, dropped packets, high discards, etc... everything we can get now but all in one view.

                                               

                                              Shall we say Net-Stack You can credit me later for that one Solarwinds

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                                              • 98. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                                                xtraspecialj

                                                Yeah, our network team is looking into other products now to do network mapping.  Things like LiveAction and a few others.  It's a shame because I can get SolarWinds to do what they want... sort of.  I just don't have the time to spend to make it happen.  Network Atlas not only takes a lot of time to create a good map in, it takes a lot of time and attention to keep it working properly as the network changes.  It's not a good look for them to be shopping for a replacement product.  Our managers see this and it makes them think either I'm not doing my job or that SolarWinds isn't as good as we say it is.

                                                • 99. Re: Show us your Network Atlas maps and get 500 thwack points!
                                                  jblankjblank

                                                  Thanks grantallenby.  I know we have a ton of your requests documented and you have been involved in user sessions etc... so we appreciate the feedback.  As you mentioned the new Maps feature added in the latest release is a starting point.  We understand that a localized interpretation is not the way everyone wishes to view their environment but its a great way to provide some immediate value, and to highlight progress. 

                                                   

                                                  The goal for the Maps project is to be able to provide exactly what you stated above.  An amazing visualization of the data provided through the power of the individual modules, and the technology stack.  We want users to be able to eventually see Network Topology, Application connections, NetPath, Flow Data, performance data, infrastructure relationships, to dependencies, and all the changes, performance data, and details everyone one wants.

                                                   

                                                  However, all that data and information just crammed into one place without the proper tools to filter, search, manipulate etc... would likely not generate the praise we are hoping to receive.  And remember that everyone tends to have different opinions, and all of our users certainly have their own ideas of what is important for their environment.  Our teams are working very hard to make this come to fruition as quickly as possible.  We want to do better.  It is certainly a fun challenge to get in front of the curve, but that tends to be a constant moving target which makes it tough.

                                                   

                                                  We hope to have more improvements and enhancements available soon!  Thanks for the great feedback.