5 Replies Latest reply on Jun 2, 2010 4:27 PM by christineb

    ipMonitor vs. Orion Application Module


      OK, so I was REALLY going to hold back and try and figure this out for myself, but I'm settling on the fact that it would be best to get some opinions for people who have been using ipMonitor.

      What's my best bang for the buck - at least at this point? I already have Orion SL500, working great and keeping me updated on my network. However, I'd really like to be able to monitor my critical apps (Exchange, File Server, DNS/DHCP) and databases (SQL, MySQL). I can see from the demo that the Application Module can monitor services, but it doesn't look like the info is as detailed as ipMonitor provides.

      I have read the posts - I know ipMonitor is NOT being integrated into Solarwinds <sigh>. Although I'd love to have one integrated solution, I'd certainly settle for two separate apps, (and pay more $$$) if it's going to give me a better view of my network.

      Is anyone running both? Can I get some pros and cons? What are the best parts of ipMonitor and the Application Module? I think I'm starting to convince myself on ipMonitor, and I do plan on getting the demo, but I'd like some backup here before I push for it.

      Thanks in advance!

        • Re: ipMonitor vs. Orion Application Module

          We currently run IPMonitor alongside Orion SLX and decided on IPMonitor over AM for the following reasons

          DNS montioring

          AD monitoring

          Exchange monitoring - realtime mail rtt and also internal subsystems

          SQL monitoring - realtime SQL transaction monitor and also internal subsystems (although I haven't got a full handle on this yet)

          Much better and more flexible alerting and reporting

          Custom MIBS interface is easier to use and supports tables

          Network speed tests from IPMonitor to any number of other servers

          RADIUS montioring

          Cleaner interface - I don't know why I just prefer looking at the IPMonitor interface as opposed to the Orion interface

          I know Solarwinds are going to take some of the IPMonitor technology and put it in AM but how much and exactly what I don't know, I did ask the question when they first bought IPMonitor if there would be a preferential upgrade for users of IPMonitor and Orion if and when they got AM up to a similar level of funtionality and the answer was yes, but it would have to be almost all IPMonitor functionality in AM as we are now looking at moving our servers wholesale from Orion to IPMonitor.



            • Re: ipMonitor vs. Orion Application Module

              Just to help provide some additional context for your decision....we are coming out with the new Application Performance Monitor (APM) module for Orion in the next couple of weeks that will provide the following capabilities:

              • Process monitoring (same as existing AM module)
              • Network service monitoring (e.g. FTP, HTTP, DNS, SMTP, etc.)
              • Generic TCP port monitoring
              • Web user experience monitoring (ability to do an HTTP or HTTPS get, login using NTLM/Digest/Basic auth, and search for specific HTML content) 

              As Jon noted, APM v1.0 won't match all of the monitoring capabilities of ipMonitor, but that is certainly our direction with that module and much MORE.   In the next version of APM, we will be aggressively working to add additional monitors.


                • Re: ipMonitor vs. Orion Application Module

                  I downloaded the demo of ipMonitor today, and I'm trying it out. Really, I think I'm pretty happy with how Orion is running right now. I'd like to be able to do database monitoring, but in my organization, my big database server is MySQL, not MSSQL, so I don't think ipMonitor will help me much there. The critical things for me are the network services, as you mentioned in your post.

                  Just as a though, consider adding the database support to APM, if you're not already - MySQL support would be great! Also the Exchange monitoring in ipMonitor looked interesting. I'll keep running my demo for awhile, but I think I'm staying with Orion and the APM.

                  Thanks again, I appreciate everyone's thoughts on this, it's been helpful. 

                  If we buy now, we'll be eligible for a new version should it come out within the first year, correct?