5 Replies Latest reply on Dec 22, 2017 1:14 PM by baz00r

    World Map Group Automatic Placement

    baz00r

      Hi Everybody,

       

      It was my understanding that the world map would be able to place groups automatically based off group custom fields (Latitude/Longtitude). I have created these custom fields based off the Latitude/Longitude templates (floating point) and populated this field for every group. When I edit the world map resource on my dashboard, I have selected only groups, not nodes, to appear on the map.

       

      I was expecting Solarwinds to take some time to re-discover the locations of my groups based on these custom fields and then populate the world map but currently there are no items on the map at all (I added Latitude/Longitude custom fields 2 days ago). So there is clearly a problem.

       

      Am I missing something? Please don't tell me I need to create a Latitude/Longitude custom field for EVERY NODE for it to work?

       

      Thanks in advance.

        • Re: World Map Group Automatic Placement
          mesverrum

          Curious where you got the idea that this process was automatic?  As far as I have ever seen the built in automatic map placement option is for nodes only, and does not use any custom properties but instead attempts to parse out the SNMP Location field on your nodes, as per this documentation:

          Place nodes automatically on the Worldwide Map

           

          I find that for most clients I work with the SNMP Location field is inconsistent at best, so I usually employ something like this method to automatically place things using SQL jobs

          Automatically Update World Map Points Based On Custom Property Value

           

          Not automatic to set up initially, but works great once you build your sites table.

          • Re: World Map Group Automatic Placement
            david.botfield

            Hi I think you need to update the latitude (world Map) and Longitude(world map) field to place the nodes onto the map. You can access them by adding in the columns in the custom property editor which is on option on the manage nodes screen. I've been asking for a while for the Automatic geolocation facility to work off of a custom property field but I'm not aware if this idea has been taken up. personally I'd show both the world map and my own Latitude/longitude custom fields on the Custom property editor screen so that you can just cut and paste the info from one field to the next.

            • Re: World Map Group Automatic Placement
              baz00r

              Thanks to both for your response.

               

              I assumed it worked with groups because when I "manage map" it gives me the option to uncheck nodes and check groups. I had read a previous how-to on how to copy Latitude and Longtitude values into the Latitude(worldmap) and Longitude(world map) but this appears to only be a field related to nodes, not groups.

               

              SNMP is not an option unfortunately. Having to populate the Latitude(worldmap) and Longitude(worldmap) fields manually just seems to tedious and I am surprised that you can't make nodes inherit their location based off a group custom property.

               

              Seems more logical to have a latitude/longitude field for say, 30 groups, then it does for 2000+ individual nodes. I guess I will just place the groups manually on the map instead.

                • Re: World Map Group Automatic Placement
                  mesverrum

                  In that second link i posted above there is a technique for placing groups automatically, assuming the groups reflect a site location.   It works very nicely and automates the whole task once you feed it a table full of site names and coordinates.

                    • Re: World Map Group Automatic Placement
                      baz00r

                      You're solution in the second link is exactly how I would have expected Solarwinds to operate out of the box. Having a separate table for "Sites", "Locations", "POPs" whatever you want to call it seems to dam logical to me, you could then have a drop down field when adding a node to select the site and have the node inherit the location details (even contact details for example). If this is what groups were meant for, or if you are supposed to do it using groups it's clunky at best. Once again something in Solarwinds that you would expect to be straight forward and obvious is quite the opposite.

                       

                      I'm going to go with the manual placement for now as we only have 30 or so groups, plus I am but a temporary/contractor and don't want to put in place any custom solutions which will get lost in the aether if/when I leave. Thanks.