5 Replies Latest reply on Jan 25, 2018 12:56 PM by rschroeder

    Where do/would you hang/put your SCP?


      1. Manager stresses importance of being certified at every meeting.


      2. Employee gets certified since the manager places such high value on it.


      3. Gets nothing for it.


      4. Hangs framed certificate it in the bathroom.


      5. Break glass in case out of toilet paper.




      no offense to the community, just morale at an all time low



        • Re: Where do/would you hang/put your SCP?
          Richard Phillips

          Certifications, just like any other accomplishment, may not have an immediate benefit. Unless you are at the end of your career then likely this will have a benefit in your personal performance and satisfaction with the added benefit of something on your resume. Believe it or not, there are places that hire staff just to run SolarWinds and this would put you ahead of the pack in terms of applying for one of those positions.


          I know the feeling of being underappreciated, but cheer up, this is likely not your last Gig!

          • Re: Where do/would you hang/put your SCP?

            I know some people that are all about having as many certifications as possible.

            In the end they are nothing but a paper tiger..no skills to back up the paper.

            • Re: Where do/would you hang/put your SCP?

              I've met a number of "paper" MCSE's who remained skill-less.



              And I've met many I.T. people who have seriously impressive abilities, and no certifications.


              If Management deems certification is useful and important, they should provide training and testing, or the funds to accomplish them.  And then they should pay their employees more, to ensure the newly-trained and certified people aren't hired away from the company for their competence.


              As for me, my SCP is framed and sits above my monitor where I can enjoy it, and where anyone visiting me can easily notice it if they choose.

                • Re: Where do/would you hang/put your SCP?
                  Richard Phillips

                  When I worked for a state agency I was part of a team that managed the area offices. There were 12 throughout the state. At that stage of my career I was basically on site help desk. One of the office was managed by this guy that had every certification imaginable in the IT field - this was back in 1999 and I mean every one of them including that one that was so elusive from Cisco that very, very few people had it. He was making the same salary as I was and of course was discouraged by that. He looked for nearly 2 years for a replacement job and finally took one with another state agency for about 8% bump in pay (to put that in perspective even with the bump it was about 20% of what his actual salary should have been with those certs)


                  Why? Lack of people skills. People found him rude and arrogant. He wasn't just paper certified - he really did know his stuff - but couldn't interview, couldn't hold a good conversation and couldn't do his job without irritating people.


                  Just goes to show that it takes a variety of skills and abilities to do our jobs.

                    • Re: Where do/would you hang/put your SCP?

                      It's something only experience (and excellent intuition) can provide an employer:  You can hire good-natured people who are pleasant to work with, and train them to become the assets that meet your needs.  But someone with crazy powerful certifications and technical skillsets--and poor people skills--is much more difficult to train to become a pleasant person with whom others enjoy working.


                      I've seen more unpleasant / highly-skilled people let go, than pleasant people who've developed good technical skills.


                      And that's as it should be, IMHO.