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Chargeback on Orion Based VMAN Install

Chargeback on Orion Based VMAN Install

Provide chargeback reporting in Orion similar to what is available on the VMAN appliance.

Virtualization Chargeback Software | SolarWinds

  • Create VMAN cost centers
  • Define chargeback pricing model
  • Create chargeback dashboards and reports
  • Extend functionality to Cloud infrastructure Monitoring (AWS & Azure)
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Level 9

hmm, this has a few votes, but not much discussion.  So I'll start a discussion.  I didn't realize I would lose this feature when I converted from appliance to Orion.  But my security department sped up the switchover because of the CVE-2009-3555 vulnerability in the appliance.  Please get this feature in Orion soon.  In addition to monitoring overall vSphere health, showback was the second most used feature of VMAN for me.  I had labels for the function of each VM.  I had detailed level labels for other engineers to see, so I could show memory consumption etc. across all of our apps.  I had rollup level labels to provide overall numbers to executives.  I guess now I'll have to create tags in vCenter, and use RVTools data to make some charts in Excel.

Level 9

Also, this page should be taken down if the appliance is deprecated, since it just taunts me whenever I google VMAN and chargeback, thinking maybe I was just doing something wrong when I couldn't find it anymore-  Virtualization Chargeback Software | SolarWinds

chrispaap​ Can this feature request be edited to remove the term "appliance" and still be planned for a VMAN 8.x release?

cc:bosco777

Product Manager
Product Manager

sturdyerde  wrote:

chrispaap  Can this feature request be edited to remove the term "appliance" and still be planned for a VMAN 8.x release?

cc:bosco777

Chris Paap is no longer the Product Manager over VMAN. I'm happy to discuss with you your use cases for chargeback!

Level 9

While not as full-feaured as having the fully integrated chargeback feature, serena​ gave me the idea to  make a 'custom property' of department code.  Unlike the old VMAN labels, these custom properties are accessible in SQL.  Now I can easily have the VM counts and sums of CPU,RAM, and storage broken out across department in our custom enterprise dashboard in SQL reporting services.  Just join the virtualmachinescustomproperties table to the virtualmachines table.

Thanks again Serena!

Ugh, I misread (too quickly) and missed the "similar to" clause in the request.

Looking forward to it coming in a future release!

Level 8

My company is currently looking for a solution to calculating chargebacks. Is this something that might get put on the road map? It seems like something that was very useful in the appliance that is no longer available with the Orion deployment.

Product Manager
Product Manager

horizenred  wrote:

My company is currently looking for a solution to calculating chargebacks. Is this something that might get put on the road map? It seems like something that was very useful in the appliance that is no longer available with the Orion deployment.

Hi Matthew,

what is the output that you would be showing to consumers of the chargeback data? Can you give me more details on your use case?

Level 8

Serena,

I am a bit new at the application of chargebacks and costs analytics since we’ve never implemented this before in our org though familiar with the concepts.

Currently, administration and management are looking at two factors that play into each other.

1) What does it cost to run any given application in our environment. This would include things like compute, storage, and memory, but also include things like bandwidth utilizations, and storage tiering or I/O utilization. Things that could also potentially be taken into account is electrical power consumption, cooling, and equipment refresh costs.

2) Once we have numbers from 1, we can use them for a couple of things outside of knowing the internal costs. The first is a cost comparison to vendor hosted applications to determine if moving to a remote solution is justified. And second, we are also looking into cloud hosting like Azure/AWS. We can then get a good idea of cost comparisons.

We could certainly use this info for more, but for now, this is the ask from those above myself. Please let me know if you have any questions!

I've thought on this a bit as well, and am interested in how others calculate the compute cost with regard to different chipsets: would you determine the cost based on CPU model, generation, etc; the cost based on SPECInt numbers, or just a rough and rounded cost by MHz?