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Fresh Orion deployment Vs upgrade older version

The purpose to create this post is to guide the community saving time and hassle  when running a very old version of installed Software and upgrade needs hardware migration.

So if you are still running NPM 12.0 / 12.1 / 12.3 (NCM 7.6 /7.7/ 7.8 ) versions of Orion and planing  for an upgrade to 2019.4 Core - latest version

OR

You are running an older Unsupported version having any issue / bug / Error . (Support is requested for an upgrade )

and you need to first upgrade your Orion platform which involved hardware* and software changes including the SQL server upgrade and migration.

Use the Shortcut Path (Get Fresh installation)

Instead of doing all the above painful work which does includes downtime running multiple upgrades / May heave some upgrade BUGs / during the this process.

How about parallel  fresh installation of NPM 12.5 in 10 / 15 min installation time with no downtime on your older servers.

Running discovery for the exact same nodes you have in your old NPM all done in same day within few hours .

Please Note Current supported versions

Network Performance Monitor (NPM)

  • Latest Version: 12.5
  • Oldest Supported Version: 12.1
EOL VERSIONEOL ANNOUNCEMENTEOE EFFECTIVE DATEEOL EFFECTIVE DATE
12.2September 6, 2019December 6, 2019December 6, 2020
12.1December 4, 2018March 4, 2019March 4, 2020

Network Configuration Manager (NCM)

  • Latest Version: 8.0
  • Oldest Supported Version: 7.6
EOL VERSIONEOL ANNOUNCEMENTEOE EFFECTIVE DATEEOL EFFECTIVE DATE
7.7June 6, 2019September 6, 2019September 6, 2020
7.6December 4, 2018March 4, 2019March 4, 2020

Upgrading Older version Parallel Fresh Installation of Orion
Downtime requiredNo Downtime required
Backup the whole environmentNo backup required
Multiple installation requiredSingle installation wizard
Hardware changes requiredNo hardware changes required
Bugs during upgrade / MigrationNo Bugs during installation
Maps / Reports / Alerts / Custom PropertiesYou can  imported these into the new system if required any
Historical data will be available on older systemFresh polling will start NO HISTORICAL DATA MIGRATION FROM OLD DB [NOT SUPPORTED]
NCM ConfigurationFresh NCM Device configuration will be downloaded
Can leave the system running for few daysOnce the system is stable and configured old system can be decommissioned

* You may need to check the hardware as well compatible with 2016 servers and / SQL server recommended by the Solarwinds depends on your current installed environment

Check the compatibility of your Orion Products here

Product Upgrade Advisor | SolarWinds Customer Portal

Orion Platform 2019.4 Requirements

Windows Server 2012, 2016, and 2019 and SQL Server 2012, 2014, 2016, 2017, and 2019 Support

Use the exact same Name and IP address for your New fresh installation  so you do not have to change any Firewalls rules or on the device level polling IF needed

OR

Fresh installation can be deployed with New ip address and run as parallel and you can keep it running to collect the data and other configurations and once done move the production licenses to the new installation

How do i move my Old ip address and hostname to Fresh installation ? (Most common question)

Once you have done your Fresh installation

It will take quick 10 - 20 min max to move the old ip address and hostname to fresh installation (Each server )

But first create a backup plan .

- Take full snapshot of new server

- Take full DB backup of new Server

Disconnect the old Server from the Network

Replace the ip address and hostname on new server > Re run the Configuration Wizard

Once Done.

follow the below KB post to move the nodes to new engine ip address and remove the old one .

Moving Nodes to Correct Polling Engine & (Removing OLD Engine Entry with previous IP Address)

apply the commercial licenses and all Done.

Your backup Plan

In case off any technical issues on the New server and you need immediate plan to revert back Collect Orion diagnostics first

NPM - How to gather diagnostics

Revert the snapshot of new servers back to the previous state . Now bring the old server back to the network and

Contact Solarwinds support if needed to resolve the issue you faced and provide the diagnostic files  you have collected from the New Server

How can i import my nodes into the new installation ?

Go to the old server > Collect Orion Diagnostics > Unzip > Go to the DB Folder > Open the Nodes.csv file in Excel > Ip_Address column copy your ip address

Now Run the Discovery Wizard on your New installation > (IP addresses ) pate the ip address here and complete the wizard

How can i import nodes Custom Properties ?

You can import Custom Properties after the Wizard if needed / Or can create new one .

How can i Configure your SMTP / Alerts / Maps ?

SMTP server can be configured on the new installation quickly

Firstly check Canned Alerts there are many new Alerts are added in the System you may not have configure new custom Alerts

There are new options in the Maps available this can be configured as well Yes you can also import your old maps however check the New Maps options in the Network Atlas  if you still needs any old Maps to be imported

How can i import my old reports ?

Firstly check Canned reports there are many new reports are added in the System you may not have configure new custom report or even needs to import your old report.

How can i Download configuration from the devices (NCM) on the fresh installation ?

Once you have done your discovery the first part simply run the Nightly Config Backup Job and this will download the fresh configuration from the devices.

If you have any issues with the NCM Jobs/Devices please use the Post below

NCM troubleshooting landing page

Do i need license for new installation ?

No the Fresh instillation will have 30 days evaluation license + 30 days can be extended to run the system parallel

Any further questions / issues please feel free to submit support ticket.

Tips and Tricks on opening a Support Ticket with SolarWinds

  • Hi Haider,

    I have a very quick question for you, You says that (Get Fresh Installation)

    Its mean that upgrade license also easily applied on the new orion server?? like there is no difference between new licenses and upgrade lincenses ??

    Hamza.

  • Hello Hamza

    There is no difference applying the licenses. (New licenses Manager is on the Web console >Settings > All Settings > License Manager )

    30 days evaluation Full  licenses came with the fresh installation - Which will work for all the products .

    Meanwhile you can Open Customer Service Ticket to reset your commercial licenses keys on the Customer Portal which you can apply to your New installation

    Submit a Ticket | SolarWinds Customer Portal

    If you have any further questions please feel free to contact me back .

  • Hi Haider,

    Your answer is quite match but my query is that I have a client and they are using NPM 10.7 & NCM 7.2.2 versions. We have NPM & NCM latest upgrade licenses.

    So I reinstall the fresh Orion ? If I do this so the downtime comes or I can't get the previous IP and Hostname.

    And If I shutdown the previous Orion server and assign the previous IP and Hostname to the new Orion server and then install them so how much time It take to finish all these stuff because SNMP are pre-configured on the devices.

    Hamza.

  • Hello Hamza

    It will take quick 10 - 20 min max.

    - Take full snapshot of new server

    - Take full DB backup of new Server

    Disconnect the old Server from the Network

    Replace the ip address and hostname on new server > Re run the Configuration Wizard

    Once Done.

    follow the below KB post to move the nodes to new engine ip address and remove the old one .

    Moving Nodes to Correct Polling Engine & (Removing OLD Engine Entry with previous IP Address)

    apply the commercial licenses and all Done.

    Your backup Plan

    in case off any technical issues bring the old server back to the network and revert the snapshot of new servers back to the previous state .

    Contact Solarwinds support if needed

    any question please feel free to contact back .