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Impression after 5 minutes

This is what we've needed for years.  Thank you.

Feature request:  A consultant from SolarWinds to come out and import the sheets and sheets and sheets of IPAs we have.

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Add me to the list of people upset with the pricing / licensing structure.

We will be passing on this, just as we did with Netflow. 

I believe it is outrageous to price over 1000 USD for unlimited IP management.

This product sends ICMP scans!!!  14K USD?!?!  Yeah right.

Not many will be buying this with its current structure.

Are times really that tight at SW?

Instead of the absurd 14K, if SW just sold that unlimited package for 1000 USD, I believe Everyone would purchase.

At 14k, I doubt many will.

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Yikes.  I just called and had the licensing explained to me. I had to hear it in verbally and from two people at SW so much was my desire for it not to be true. 

If you want to document your subnets with IPAM, you will need a license to cover all the addresses in all the subnets whether you use them (the addresses) or not.  That may be obvious to some and perhaps it was wishful thinking on my part for it to be otherwise.

A small to medium business may have far, far fewer hosts than allocated address space. For example, sites with 30 hosts and a /24 assigned, or 250 hosts and a /23. Add up all the sites with under utilized address space and instead of a 1024 IPA license you need the IPX.

A great tool but we may lose the opportunity to own it.

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I know the feeling.  One of the fools... I mean engineers previous to me used /16's for some of our networks... Networks with 50ish computers. 

The price on the IPX is frankly a bit insane for someone with about 1500-2000 nodes on the network.

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There is no literature on the licensing on solarwinds.com - What are the licensing points?

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Here is the link for their pricing.  http://www.solarwinds.com/campaigns/IPAM/

Special Offer: Save Big Through 4/27/09!


Early Adopter Pricing Is Shown Below, Which Represents 25% Off List Prices
LicenseManaged IPsUSDEuroGBP
Orion IPAM IP10001024$1,496€1,219£833
Orion IPAM IP40004096$2,996€2,441£1,665
Orion IPAM IP1600016384$6,746€5,498£3,746
Orion IPAM IPXUnlimited$11,246€9,165£6,248

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The only two I remember off the top of my head were

IP4k (4096 addresses) = ~$4000

IPX (Unlimited) = ~15k...

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I have over 15,000 IPs...

$1/IP? Realy?!

15k is 2x too much for a simple icmp ping tool.

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Now you see what I'm saying... because of our dumb IP scheme, I'd be forced to the IPX which is $10/node on my network.

My boss'd laugh at me.

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Hey all, I just wanted to take a second and respond and make sure there is no confusion in the communication.

So in ljenkins case, he said he has some /16 subnets with only 50ish computers on that subnet.  If he adds a /16 subnet to IPAM and only cares about those 50ish IP Addresses, he only has to add those 50ish IP Addresses to the system.  Just because he adds the /16 to the system, he doesn't have to manage the entire subnet.  He can remove the IP's he does not care about scanning.

Please let me know if that makes sense and clears up any confusion.

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Here's my 2c, we manage the network addressing for the company. We have hundreds of subnets (dealerships, manufacturing, marketing, engineering, etc), we only care to see if that network has been assigned or not. We leave all the host IP's to the local IT guy. I'm still not convinced on how IPAM can help us out, since I haven't been able to mark a subnet as available, is there something like a custom field that I can use?

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Yes, you can define custom fields at the IP, Subnet, Supernet and Cateogry level.  Let me contact you offline to talk back and forth further on what you are looking to do and where IPAM can help

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Brandon,

No confusion on my part.  Having to add/remove many ranges within many managed subnets diminishes the product.

The pinging part of the application is handy; but we'd be happy to have just a web accessible DB of IP addresses that bolts into our Orion site to replace our spreadsheets.

Perhaps in future releases there could be a license for a manually maintained IPA list and make the ping monitoring a per node purchase.

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This is more like a 30 minute first Impression.

Overall the product is very good.

It is much easier to use than IPPlan but the licensing is crippling. Our private networks have a 5%-10% ip allocation rate. This is because of network layer separation requirements and many /24 networks for ease of administration. This makes the cost of this application very high.

I may be doing something wrong but selecting "Scan This Subnet Now" puts the subnet at the end of the scan queue. That is not "Now".

A licensing model based on IP addresses that are, reserved, discovered or manually assigned would be much more appealing than all possible addresses in the network.

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jkgraham, good feedback.  If you do not want to scan the whole subnet, you can delete out the addresses you are not concerned about and they will not be scanned and will not count on the license.  See above in thread on that more.

Do you have other scans currently running on the system?  If you have other scans going and hit scan now, it will place it next in the queue

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I would also like to agree that the licensing is crippling for people with low % of used addresses over many subnets/vlans.

I would also like to point out that bshopp's point:

If you do not want to scan the whole subnet, you can delete out the addresses you are not concerned about and they will not be scanned and will not count on the license.  



is absolutely not true.  I have tried this on a /24 subnet which only has 59 addresses in use, and the license status still shows 256 out of 4096.   



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If you do not want to scan the whole subnet, you can delete out the addresses you are not concerned about and they will not be scanned and will not count on the license.  



is absolutely not true.  I have tried this on a /24 subnet which only has 59 addresses in use, and the license status still shows 256 out of 4096.



Hi Geo.

The number at the bottom right of your page may not be updating after IP addresses are removed. Refreshing the page (or open a new window) will show the correct count. You do have the ability to have a subnet take 0 or more licenses.

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Back to Peter and Brandon:

Turns out that the licensing number on the bottom right does not always update, even when refreshing the page.  Logging out and back in always seems to fix it.

Thanks

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Let me contact you offline to see what you are seeing.  If you remove/delete them from the subnet, they should not count against your license count.

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I think everyone agrees that IPMAN looks great and does what it is meant to  do.  I dont think anyone would feel the license / price structure is fair.

Also be sure to see the above thread regarding the bad practice of "omitting" IP addresses.  The IP is still active and could be attached to a host, and you would never know because of the wacky pricing / licensing structure of this simple ICMP scan software.

We have several mgmt vlans with 255.255.0.0 masks.  knowing that I can omitted large groups of IPs from being managed is great, but that doesnt help me manage them.  It just cuts costs.

Anyone who has a network with a 255.255.0.0 mask is SOL. 

65000 hosts, have fun paying 14K USD.

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There are about 40 networks in the queue. Some of them will stay scanning for hundreeds of minutes. Does this indicate a comm problem?

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