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The Hybrid Cloud

Level 11

Keeping it easy this post. It'll be just a small recap to build some tension for the next few posts. In the last two posts, I talked a little about the private and public cloud, and it is always difficult to write everything with the right words. So, I totally agree with most of the comments made, and I wanted to make sure a couple of them were addressed in this post. Let’s start with the cloud in general:


A lot of you said that the cloud is just a buzzword (or even just someone else’s computer).

I know it’s funny, and I know people are still trying to figure out what cloud is exactly, but for now we (our companies and customers) are calling it cloud. And I know we techies want to set things straight, but for now let’s all agree on calling it cloud, and just be done with it (for the sake of all people that still see the computer as a magical box with stardust as its internal parts, and unicorns blasting rainbows as their administrators.)

The thing is, I like the comments because I think posts should always be written as conversation starters. We are here to learn from each other, and that’s why we need these comments so badly.

The private cloud (or infrastructure) is a big asset for many of the companies we work for. But they pay a lot of money to just set up and maintain the environment, where the public cloud just gives them all these assets and sends a monthly bill. Less server cost, less resource cost, less everything, at least that’s what a lot of managers think. But as a couple of the comments already mentioned, what if things go south? What if the provider goes bankrupt and you can't access your data anymore?

In the last couple of years, we've seen more and more companies in the tech space come up with solutions, even for these kinds of troubles. With the right tools, you could make sure you’re data is accessible, even if your provider goes broke and the lights go out. Companies like Zerto, Veeam, Solarwinds, VMware and many more are handing you tools to use the clouds as you want them, while still being in control and able to see what is going on. We talked about DART and SOAR, and these are very important in this era and the future ahead. We tend to look at the marketing buzz and forget that it's their way of saying that they often don't understand half of the things we do or say, and the same goes for a lot of people outside the IT department. In the end they just want it KISS, and that where a word like "cloud" comes from. But let's go back to hybrid.

So what is hybrid exactly? A lot of people I talk to are always very outspoken about what they see as hybrid cloud. They see the hybrid cloud as the best of both worlds, as private and hybrid clouds combined. For me, the hybrid cloud is much more than that. For me, it can be any combination, even all public, but shared among multiple providers (multi-cloud anybody?!? ), or private and public clouds on-premises, and so on. In the end, the cloud shouldn't matter; it should just be usable.

For me, the hybrid solution is what everybody is looking for, the one ring to rule them all. But we need something software-defined to manage it all.

That's why my next post will be about the software-defined data center. It's another buzzword, I know, but let's see if we can learn a bit more from each other on where the IT world is going to, and how we can help our companies leverage the right tools to build the ultimate someone else’s computer.

See you in Vegas next week?!?


multi cloud ~~ clustered cloud ?

Hmmmm......  Usually only Dez​ gets that.

For next month it sounds like you are speaking of a datacenter in a box..or appliance.

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I still feel like the cloud is a form of dummy terminals connected to a mainframe...  Technology is not necessarily becoming complicated it's really just expanding on already learned techniques and ideas.  But, then again, I am a weird minded individual when it comes to seeing/naming things


Level 11

nope, probably enterpise cloud on steroids

Level 13

i love DRIBs...makes my life so easy!

Level 21

I find it interesting that so many people move to Public Cloud solutions thinking they are going to save $$$ when very often that isn't the case at all; at least not if you want good performance out of the systems.  We are a Cloud Solutions Provider and we offer everything from Colocation space, Private Cloud, Public Cloud (using Azure) and a Hybrid of them all.  In my experience working with these Public Cloud is not any less $$$, it's just a different type of tool used to solve a different problem.

Ultimately in the end no one solution is the right solution for everybody.  Each clients needs need to be specifically evaluated and have the right solution applied.  Just because you can hammer in a screw doesn't mean the hammer is the right tool for the job! 


I think in some instances companies go that way to reduce head count...that way they just dictate what they want and let the solutions provider have all the headache.

Level 21

Jfrazier​ you are absolutely right about that and I have seen it on several occasions; however, it often doesn't work out well.  Companies still need people on staff that understand and can manage their applications.  I have seen companies reduce headcount only to find nobody knew how to manage their applications and then they had to turn around and hire people again.  Normally this realization only happens when the application goes down and nobody is around to bring it back online.

Service providers are great (I am not just saying that because I work at one); however, they don't have the intimate knowledge of each clients applications and therefore can't be expected to manage them.


Agreed byrona ...I've worked that life before.

arjantim you stated, "The Private cloud (or infrastructure) is a big asset for many of the companies we work for. But they pay a lot of money to just setup and maintain the environment..." Since we migrated to our Private Cloud the TCO for our server infrastructure has dropped considerably. Are others not seeing that?

What we do see is that Public Cloud options are very $$$. So what we use it for now is off-site data repositories. We pay for storage but not for processing.

And I agree with Dez analogy of mainframes, dummy terminals, thin clients, etc. The pendulum always swings between centralization and distributed.


It is at times hard to argue against the shear horsepower mainframes bring to the environment.

And as tinmann0715​ says, it is indeed a pendulum that swings between centralization and distributed.  Somewhere there is a balance..but the fulcrum is always moving.

Save everyone some CPU cycles and call it what it is:  Application Service Providers, or ASP's.

It doesn't matter whether it's Internal or External, if you're talking "Cloud"--just that you and your users don't feel it's nebulous and unknowable, or that it can't be measured or monitored.

If you need a service and you can't afford to provide it internally, can you afford the data loss that will happen when you contract out to an external ASP?  What's that--you say "what data loss?"

If the ASP doesn't let you logically and physically inspect and monitor and secure their locations and logical sites and backup solutions and D.R., all on a regular basis, you're right, you won't know that your data's been stolen or manipulated or compromised.

At least, you won't know until it's too late.

Don't accept ASP contracts that don't match your own internal security and D.R. best practices and polices.

Level 15

The Hybrid Cloud  = Private cloud  + Public cloud

the applications transiting between private and public

Level 14

I still like private cloud.

I'm pretty sure the first few seconds of this video covers the topic nicely:

JOE VERSUS THE VOLCANO ~ Brain Cloud - YouTube

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I've been in IT for almost 30 years beginning in the stockroom and working my way up through operations to help build and develop the Automated Operations Team at Radioshack before Enterprise Management was a cool thing. Working in several different shops over the years has exposed me to a number of different challenges regarding monitoring and alerting. I am a amateur radio operator, Skywarn spotter for the National Weather Service, and a volunteer firefighter in a rural county just West of Fort Worth.