What We're Working On for Kiwi Syslog - Updated Jan 10th 2020

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  • Improved scale logging to SQL databases
  • Log forwarding to Loggly
  • Performance & Usability Enhancements
  • Windows Server 2019 Support

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  • jhynds​, "focused on performance and scale enhancements to Kiwi Syslog" -- OOooo! That sounds great. I am all for performance and scale enhancements.

    Anything I'd like to see? Well, yes... there are. Now I know Solarwinds has other logging programs (probably more than I can recall, LOL). So, how to keep Kiwi distinct from the others... not sure how many features you could put into Kiwi before it becomes the same product as the another. But seriously, here is my biggest want:

    I would like it if both Kiwi and Orion NPM could have the option, to store syslog and SNMP trap in the same SQL database which is separate from Orion NPM database. This would allow Kiwi to be the receiver of all things syslog and trap, thereby alleviating Orion from that burden. Since this would be the same database Orion uses, the logs would still be available from Alerts and Activities, still be able to included in Perf Stack, still be searchable and alert-able using Orion's engine. Basically, at the customer's option, they could use Kiwi Syslog stand alone, or as a performance improvement for Orion.

    I know some people do use Kiwi in conjunction with Orion, but there is a disconnect in that Kiwi keeps the logs separately from Orion. They being separate, that solution does not allow full Orion use of the logs that Kiwi Collects. I know, I know, Kiwi can forward all (or filtered) syslogs to Orion. That is good. But it still required the Orion engine to receive those forwarded log entries and put them in a database and that database is the same Orion NPM database. What I am suggesting is an option in Kiwi that Kiwi could take those logs and push them into an SQL database that Orion can access, without using any Orion performance to store them.

    If I'm off in my understanding about how the current version of Kiwi works with Orion, please feel free to correct me. It has been a long while since I touched our Kiwi server.

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  • jhynds​, "focused on performance and scale enhancements to Kiwi Syslog" -- OOooo! That sounds great. I am all for performance and scale enhancements.

    Anything I'd like to see? Well, yes... there are. Now I know Solarwinds has other logging programs (probably more than I can recall, LOL). So, how to keep Kiwi distinct from the others... not sure how many features you could put into Kiwi before it becomes the same product as the another. But seriously, here is my biggest want:

    I would like it if both Kiwi and Orion NPM could have the option, to store syslog and SNMP trap in the same SQL database which is separate from Orion NPM database. This would allow Kiwi to be the receiver of all things syslog and trap, thereby alleviating Orion from that burden. Since this would be the same database Orion uses, the logs would still be available from Alerts and Activities, still be able to included in Perf Stack, still be searchable and alert-able using Orion's engine. Basically, at the customer's option, they could use Kiwi Syslog stand alone, or as a performance improvement for Orion.

    I know some people do use Kiwi in conjunction with Orion, but there is a disconnect in that Kiwi keeps the logs separately from Orion. They being separate, that solution does not allow full Orion use of the logs that Kiwi Collects. I know, I know, Kiwi can forward all (or filtered) syslogs to Orion. That is good. But it still required the Orion engine to receive those forwarded log entries and put them in a database and that database is the same Orion NPM database. What I am suggesting is an option in Kiwi that Kiwi could take those logs and push them into an SQL database that Orion can access, without using any Orion performance to store them.

    If I'm off in my understanding about how the current version of Kiwi works with Orion, please feel free to correct me. It has been a long while since I touched our Kiwi server.

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